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I've just been dared - or more like ordered - to take an RPS fic as a gift for whichever actor will be at the next Collectormania. I'm thinking possibly not. I would, but I really don't want to scar some poor dear for life and make him never do a convention again...

Date: 2003-05-04 01:03 pm (UTC)

Date: 2003-05-04 01:08 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitsune13.livejournal.com
Er, that sort of thing is considered to be extremely bad fandom ettiquette. You're essentially going up to someone and saying, "Hi! These are all my sexual fantasies about you with another person, and I'm going to shove them in your face!" There was a huge kerfluffle about a year ago in LOTRPS when some twit came up to Ian McKellan and his SO while they were eating and babbled on about RPS and gave them her website address. It's basically the height of rudeness, to both the actor and to the fellow fans.

I remember that....

Date: 2003-05-04 01:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fractalreality.livejournal.com
....that was one of the most tedious arguments I've ever witnessed lol.

Luckily, he seemed to take it very well, but I saw the point that they may be slightly....squicked.

Fanfic is the best way to go with that I think - last thing you want to do is upset someone.

Date: 2003-05-04 01:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] thisside.livejournal.com
Please, please, please don't do this.

Date: 2003-05-04 01:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jrivka.livejournal.com
i'm fascinated by the fact that of the two people who have made flat-out 'do' or 'don't' statements, they both have cats for icons.

...what?

Date: 2003-05-04 02:21 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sidewinder.livejournal.com
I would, but I really don't want to scar some poor dear for life and make him never do a convention again...

It could have far worse repurcussions than simply that. It's a bad, bad thing to do and I would strongly recommend against it. Nothing puts a fandom at worse risk than that kind of exposure.

Date: 2003-05-04 02:34 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fractalreality.livejournal.com
I don't think that's a problem truth be told.

I mean, fandoms are the biggest open secret out there....
It's just because they keep to themselves, noone cares.

The most important thing to consider would be the person you gave it to - one story isn't going to 'reveal' a fandom, but could very well upset the person...

It's like, most celebrities know that fans have fantasies about them, they'd just rather not know what they are....

Date: 2003-05-04 02:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sidewinder.livejournal.com
I mean, fandoms are the biggest open secret out there....

Fandoms, yes. Real Person Slash? I'm not so sure I'd buy that.

It's just because they keep to themselves, noone cares.

Precisely. But if you shove something into an actor/producer/writer's face, there goes plausible deniability. For that person to ignore it then is to basically say they condone it. And hey, maybe that's not such a big issue for an actor, but if a producer or someone out there gets a hold of it, well then here comes the C&Ds.

You also simply don't know how a celeb is going to react unless you're dealing with one of those few, rare cases where he/she has point blank said he's okay with it and maybe even enjoys it. The number of which I can count on one hand. I'm not one to try to guess how a celeb might react to my written fantasies about him and his colleagues and it makes me incredibly uncomfortable to think about the long-term implications of what might happen if someone reacted really badly to it.

Date: 2003-05-04 03:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kitsune13.livejournal.com
Exactly. I mean, Chris Rankin (Percy in the HP movies) has publicly stated that he loves Oliver/Percy stories, so handing him one would be no imposition. Likewise, if someone ever did come out and say they enjoy fanfic about themselves (dude, if I were famous, I'd expect y'all to bring it on), no problem.

But if the person hasn't said anything to that effect, you have no idea how he or she would react. And as Miss Manners says, etiquette is about not making others uncomfortable. If there's even the slightest possibility -- and fanfic, het or slash, RPS or FPS, has a lot of potential for causing discomfort to the people being written about (or actors playing the characters being written about). Best to err on the side of caution.

Date: 2003-05-04 07:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dancingrain.livejournal.com
*agrees completely*

Avariel, trust your instinct. If thinking about handing an actor RPS fic trips "hmm, maybe not a good idea" for you, then, well, go with that. :)

Date: 2003-05-04 02:46 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] shinysparkly.livejournal.com
Please, please don't. They may know it exists...but they don't need to have it right in front of them. I think it's disrespectful and just..ugh.

Date: 2003-05-04 02:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] that_mireille
Er. Extremely bad fandom etiquette, and I think it's quite rude to the actors as well. (Note, I'm not opposed to RPS. I *write* RPS. And yes, it's on my website, and a few minutes with Google will turn it up, so it's within the realm of possibility that the actors involved have seen it. But I'm not going to hand it to them, because I want them to have the choice of ignoring / avoiding it.)

I really wouldn't recommend it, and honestly don't see what purpose it would serve.

Just my 0.02.

Date: 2003-05-04 05:14 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] littleshebear.livejournal.com
because I want them to have the choice of ignoring / avoiding it.

Yeah, when you click a link you always take a risk with what's going to be on the other side. You give tacit permission to be exposed to that material if you find it on Google and choose to click the link. Actually physically handing the stuff over is a whole different kettle of fish.

My instinct says no, don't do it. I think it would be embarrasing for all concerned.

Date: 2003-05-04 03:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fractalreality.livejournal.com
I never said I thought she should, merely that there are many arguments open....
I dont think it's a good idea personally, but I can see all points.

The ironic thing is, you are more likely to get in trouble for fandoms than RPSbecause of copyright laws and stuff....

But as a rule I think that it's better to respect the actor/actress rather than stick to fandom rules...do what you think is best...

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